Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

02/08/2005 08:30 AM Senate JUDICIARY


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*+ SJR 1 CONST. AM: APPROPRIATION LIMIT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SJR 4 CONST AM: BUDGET RESERVE FUND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ SB 36 ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
= SB 65 OFFENSES BY MINORS/AGAINST TEACHERS
Moved CSSB 65(JUD) Out of Committee
                                                                                                                                
               SB 36-ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATIONS                                                                           
                                                                                                                              
9:49:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS  announced  SB  36,   version  G,  to  be  up  for                                                               
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT, sponsor,  said SB  36 addresses  an absentee                                                               
ballot  problem  that  surfaced in  the  2004  general  election.                                                               
Sensitive  personal  data  was  made  available  when  individual                                                               
absentee ballot requests were mailed  back to the political party                                                               
office instead  of to the  Division of Elections. He  assured the                                                               
committee  that there  was no  wrongdoing, but  individual voters                                                               
should not feel  that their privacy is under  attack just because                                                               
they wish  to participate in  a regularly scheduled  election. SB
36 requires  all absentee ballot  requests to be  mailed directly                                                               
to  the Division  of Elections  for  confidential processing.  It                                                               
also  includes  individuals  in  the  section  that  prohibits  a                                                               
political  group  or  party  from   assisting  or  encouraging  a                                                               
violation of the act.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:51:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  pointed out that  he had CSSB 36,  version F,                                                               
and asked his staff, Dave Stancliff, to describe the changes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DAVE STANCLIFF,  staff to Senator Therriault,  explained that the                                                               
CS is  in response to  a question  raised by Senator  Elton about                                                               
whether  this bill  and  the  definition in  it  prevents a  non-                                                               
political group, like Trustees For  Alaska, or an individual from                                                               
conducting the  type of  activities this  bill seeks  to prevent.                                                               
Legislative  Legal  agreed that  it  could  be construed  to  not                                                               
protect against a  non-political group or person. The  CS is all-                                                               
inclusive in  that no  person or  group, political  or otherwise,                                                               
should be a third-party intercept in the election process.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS asked  if the  term "person"  is all-inclusive  in                                                               
Alaska law.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANCLIFF replied yes, from a legal standpoint.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:53:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT explained  that the language on  page 1, lines                                                               
11-13, encourages  Alaskan voters  to participate in  an election                                                               
using the  absentee ballot, but  the ballot has  to be in  a form                                                               
that is  approved by the  director of the Division  of Elections.                                                               
The form can be sent out or hand-delivered as wished.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  moved to  adopt  version  F as  the  working                                                               
document. There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANCLIFF noted  that on  page 2,  lines 22-23,  the drafter                                                               
specified  that language  that says  the form  is to  be returned                                                               
directly and  not by  another person  or group  should be  on the                                                               
form itself.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS asked  if he  would be  in violation  if his  wife                                                               
delivered a ballot for him.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANCLIFF replied no.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH  asked if he  registered someone to vote  and gave                                                               
him a ballot,  a crime would be committed if  the voter filled it                                                               
out and Senator French mailed it to the division for him.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANCLIFF replied  if the  person is  a legal  registrar and                                                               
approved  by the  division  to conduct  those  activities, he  is                                                               
considered the same as the division so that would be legal.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked if anyone could become a registrar.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  replied that  anyone can become  a registrar,                                                               
but there are rules on how to handle the information.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:58:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHULTZ  said  it  does not  include  postal  service  worker                                                               
handling.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT  said language  on page 1,  lines 4-5,  says a                                                               
qualified voter may apply by  mail or by electronic transmission,                                                               
but it was  pointed out that a person might  physically walk into                                                               
the office  to get an  application and the Division  of Elections                                                               
felt most comfortable adding "or in person".                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNETTE  KREITZER,  Chief  of Staff,  Office  of  the  Lieutenant                                                               
Governor,  said  she spoke  to  Laura  Glaiser, director  of  the                                                               
Division of Elections, who expressed  concern about deleting that                                                               
language  and preferred  adding "in  person"  to "by  mail or  by                                                               
electronic  transmission" to  identify  the ways  a person  could                                                               
apply for an absentee ballot.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THERRIAULT moved  to insert "in person"  after "apply" on                                                               
page 1, line 4. There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:01:39 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KREITZER offered to find out  if a registrar is considered to                                                               
be  a  representative  of  the  division  and  get  back  to  the                                                               
committee with an answer.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:02:34 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS set the bill aside to await her answer.                                                                           
                     SB 36-ABSENTEE BALLOTS                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS announced SB 35 to be back before the committee.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
LAURA GLAISER,  director, Division  of Elections, said  she would                                                               
answer questions.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH said  his question had to do with  the handling of                                                               
absentee ballot  application forms and  how they get  as directly                                                               
as possible from  the applicant to the division. He  asked her to                                                               
describe  how the  form makes  certain that  intermediaries don't                                                               
collect and take personal information from the applications.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:11:26 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  replied that AS  15.070.81 pertains  to registration                                                               
officials and says:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     The  director shall  appoint one  or more  registration                                                                    
     officials to  serve in each precinct  polling places in                                                                    
     election during  the hours...and the  election official                                                                    
     appointed   under  this   section  also   serve  as   a                                                                    
     registration official.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:12:09 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS asked  if giving his application to  a registrar is                                                               
the same as giving it to the division.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  replied that is  her interpretation, but she  is not                                                               
an   attorney.  She   accepts   applications  from   registration                                                               
officials if they  have been brought in a timely  manner. The law                                                               
says  it should  be turned  in within  five days,  but often  she                                                               
receives applications that  have been signed more  than five days                                                               
prior.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:13:21 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS  said the intent of  the bill is that  a person can                                                               
be considered  to have returned  his application to  the Division                                                               
of Elections by giving it to an election official.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:13:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER responded that AS  15.07.100 says that a registration                                                               
official shall be:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     A  qualified state  voter  and shall  take  an oath  to                                                                    
     honestly,  faithfully and  promptly perform  the duties                                                                    
     of  the  office.  The  training  for  the  registration                                                                    
     official  shall be  provided by  the director  and does                                                                    
     occur through  the regional offices. On  the completion                                                                    
     of training,  the director  may require  that officials                                                                    
     demonstrate  their  competence  by   a  test  or  other                                                                    
     method....  The  registration  official serves  at  the                                                                    
     pleasure  of the  director. Each  registration official                                                                    
     shall be  periodically evaluated by the  director based                                                                    
     on  completeness of  registration forms,  timely filing                                                                    
     of   the  forms   and   actively   attributed  to   the                                                                    
     registration official.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
She  said  that  daily  tallies   are  made  in  a  database  for                                                               
registration officials. She read further:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     A registration official  shall transmit completed voter                                                                    
     registration  forms to  the election  supervisor within                                                                    
     five days following the completion by the voter.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   THERRIAULT   asked   if  standard   training   includes                                                               
clarification  of how  sensitive information  should be  handled,                                                               
such as photocopying.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER replied yes, but  some groups have told the Fairbanks                                                               
supervisor that  copies are  made even though  they are  told not                                                               
to. Other  than the confidentiality  prohibition, she has  no way                                                               
to stop that unless she finds  out that the oath is violated, she                                                               
removes that person as a registrar.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:16:01 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH said  he didn't  want to  see normal  law-abiding                                                               
people  get sideways  with the  law and  thought the  form should                                                               
state that the registrar represents the division.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER  showed   the  committee  a  copy   of  last  year's                                                               
application  and  said  she  would  be happy  to  work  with  the                                                               
committee on language  and change the regulations  to reflect the                                                               
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS agreed with Senator French's concern.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:18:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  said his concern is  that there are only  one or                                                               
two registrars per precinct.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  clarified that she  is required to appoint  at least                                                               
one,  not just  one, and  that there  are registration  officials                                                               
throughout the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:20:28 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  asked  why  language in  sections  4  and  5                                                               
applies only  to a form  that hasn't been approved,  which leaves                                                               
off the  part about  collecting the forms  and caging  voters. He                                                               
thought the  committee might consider  adding that  language back                                                               
in.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER explained  that the  State Affairs  version targeted                                                               
unlawful  interference  and deletes  the  part  about whether  an                                                               
application  was  changed, whether  a  voter  didn't sign  it  or                                                               
whether confidential  information was  gathered prior  to turning                                                               
the application into the division.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  THERRIAULT  moved  a   conceptual  amendment  to  insert                                                               
Sections 4  and 5 from the  G version into the  F version, except                                                               
instead of applying to a political  group or party it would apply                                                               
to a person, which is language that makes it all-inclusive.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:24:25 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR SEEKINS  added that under  Alaska law, "person" is  an all-                                                               
inclusive term  that includes  political parties,  corporations -                                                               
any entity whatsoever.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
10:24:38 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KREITZER said she had concerns about combining the language.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  said she  would like to  see language  included from                                                               
[version  F] subparagraph  5, lines  26 and  27, stating  a voter                                                               
with an absentee  application form that does not  comply with the                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  SEEKINS held  SB 36  for  further work  and adjourned  the                                                               
meeting at 10:26:29 AM.                                                                                                       

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